From the Washington Post:
NEW YORK — A federal judge has signed a default judgment finding Iran, the Taliban and al-Qaida liable in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
Judge George Daniels in Manhattan signed the judgment Thursday, a week after hearing testimony in the 10-year-old case. The signed ruling, which he promised last week, came in a $100 billion lawsuit brought by family members of victims of the attacks. He directed a magistrate judge to preside over remaining issues, including fixing compensatory and punitive damages.
But I thought Iraq was culpable for it!
Suck on this!
We hit Iraq because we could!
Of course, war hawks (the same war hawks who wanted to hit Iraq — and succeeded in spending trillions of dollars on an expensive and fragilising conflict that did nothing whatever for national security) are always looking for compelling and emotive justifications for their war-mongering.
And in Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, hawks like Friedman have found a man who is in many ways their shadow. Flamboyant, provocative, over-the-top and fiercely combative Ahmadinejad gladly engages in anything that will piss the West off — holocaust revisionism, 9/11 trutherism, and now war games around a major international shipping lane.
“Suck on this!”, as Tom Friedman put it.
From Zero Hedge:
Iran is launching a “massive” 10 day war games naval exercise right in the belly of the beast.
Iranian Navy Commander Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari on Thursday announced the upcoming launch of ten-day massive naval exercises in the international waters.
“This is the first time that Iran’s Navy carries out naval drills in such a vast area”, he was quoted as saying. “The exercises will manifest Iran’s military prowess and defense capabilities in the international waters, convey a message of peace and friendship to regional countries and test the newest military equipment among other objectives”. He added that “the newest missile systems and torpedoes will be employed in the maneuvers, adding that the most recent tactics used in subsurface battles will also be demonstrated. Iranian destroyers, missile-launching vessels, logistic vessels, drones and coastal missiles will also be tested.“
There can be no question that this “exercise” may well be a cover for seizing and closing the Strait of Hormuz.
The real question is how America will respond.
From the National Post:
The Strait is a 50-kilometre wide passageway through which about a third of the world’s oil tanker traffic sails. Whoever controls this crucial choke-point virtually controls Middle East oil exports.
“The importance of this waterway to both American military and economic interests is difficult to overstate,” said a report by geopolitical analysts at the global intelligence firm Stratfor.
“Considering Washington’s more general — and fundamental — interest in securing freedom of the seas, the U.S. Navy would almost be forced to respond aggressively to any attempt to close the Strait of Hormuz.”
“Iran has built up a large mix of unconventional forces in the Gulf that can challenge its neighbours in a wide variety of asymmetric wars, including low-level wars of attrition,” said Anthony Cordesman of the Center for Strategic & International Studies in Washington.
But, we’ve always been at war with west Asia or oceana or whereever .
I thought we were at war with East Asia
Well now we can be at war with a worthy opponent…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-launching-massive-ten-day-war-game-tomorrow-close-proximity-cvn-74-john-stennis
Any foo knows this government was responsible for 9/11… and all the rest of the reported ‘terrorist plots’.
I’d rather not be at war with anyone at all!
Also most of the Arabs I have talked to who have a genuine understanding of the middle east believe that al-Qaeda is real and that 9/11 was blowback for U.S. military operations in the region, specifically that many promises were made to the Mujahideen fighting the Soviets, e.g. Mercedes cars, houses in Florida, scholarships to Harvard and Yale, and that at the end of the war with the Soviets these promises were unfulfilled.
I’m not one to take another persons viewpoint/opinion on what has happened in this world. There is plenty of evidence on the internet that proves what the truth is…[or lies, for that matter] I prefer the truth and nothing but the truth, but, hey, I never disprove anothers ‘opinion’. I am too certain of my own. Why was Silverstein, owner of the twin towers told the electrical system was cross corroding and the buildings would have to be demolished, at a huge loss to him.. why did he take out massive insurance on the buildings, and then collected it after they were blown up. A plane/planes couldn’t and have NEVER blown up any building that size… impossible…I know a guy who is a fireman in N.Y. who, with other firemen went toward the basement where 30 trillion dollars of gold buillion was stored, that belonged to countries all over the world.. the police turned them away, and when they returned, a week later, the buillion was POOF! gone…
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/cutter.html….
but so what… no one really cares what truth is these days.. they would rather believe a lie…. so what ever…
I know $2.3 trillion was found to be “missing” from the Pentagon’s budget before 9/11:
— Rumsfeld.
I never heard the story about the gold. Do you have any additional information or websites explaining this?
10 years on, and still just theories. But I want to know the truth, so feel free to prove it. The way they screwed up Iraq, I find it hard to believe they could carry out such a complex conspiracy without a hitch. It would also require Dubya to be a Hollywood actor to do that blank look so well!
Welcome to my world. I am a stupidity theorist, and definitely not a conspiracy theorist.
But seeing as we’re talking conspiracy theories I think the idea Iran did 9/11 is the craziest one of the lot.
CIA #1 to CIA #2: Those pesky Russians. They go into Afghanistan, and promise to build hydroelectric dams, schools, roads, bridges, trade with the locals, provide cars and other support. How are we going to win influence over all those promises to better the lives of the people?
CIA #2 responds: Give me 2 days to give you an answer:
CIA # 2 to head of CIA: We need 2 billion dollars. wink wink.
Head of CIA: Nod nod:
CIA 2 to Mohamad (Afghan): You blow up those Russian tanks, and you will get a US passport, a house, and a Mercedes.
CIA 2 to CIA 1: Here is $1 Billion. Now sit back and watch the show. I am off to Florida.
As far as I have been told by Arabs who were unsuccessfully recruited to fight in Afghanistan this story is pretty much correct. Obviously al-Qaeda do have the religiosity, that is real. al-Zawahiri in particular is very fierce in his belief in the caliphate. But the motivation to fight America came from many of the Muslims recruited with the promise of Mercedes-Benz and who then ended up living in a cave after the war ended.
Is there a book on a what if scenario for Communism.
1. What if Stalin did not have to fight the Germans?
2. What if there was no cold war, and thus Communist Russia could export to the USA, Britain etc?
3. What if Russia did not have to fight a war in Afghanistan?
Would Communism have survived? Would we have the problems in the world economy that we face today?
I don’t believe in Communism, but the theory of long production runs, and less money spent on advertising, is compelling.
PLEASE not another war. America already proved itself a great nation by surviving Bush and Rumsfeld………….
One report: http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/gold.html
I woke up that morning, my husband was already watching the ‘attacks’ on the bedroom t.v. I immediately could SEE what was happening.. I said that was an implosion and the government did it.. what made me say that? Just stupid or intuition.. I don’t care which it is.. but I knew the facts of this story inside and out. But that was a long time ago… lots more to learn has happened since then. So my memory on the ‘amount’ of gold may be off.. they don’t even know themselves.. the fact is …. it was there, and then it wasn’t…
we should know by now that everything ‘they’ tell us has been a lie.. the lies are infinitely more unbelievable than the truth.. box knives???? give me a break.. I’m in my late 60’s and even I would fight against a prick with a box knife.. to save my life… what dicks…
This is one quote I like to read often:
‘The fact that an opinion has been believed, is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.’
Anything someone can ‘imagine’ can happen… so many ‘miracles’ has happened to me in my lifetime, I can’t count them.. maybe that is why I have such a broad outlook at what happens in this world.. no matter….. the fact is whatever happens ALWAYS happens for a reason…greed is usually the bottom line.. so enough of this… there are many ‘theories’.. people believe what they want to. Just like me. I work with Quantum Physics. No one is capable of ‘understanding’ this science.. it is too far out of our human understanding.. no matter… I work with frequencies.. energies. I am a distance healer.. no one ‘KNOWS’ how it works… but when they call me on the phone, tell me what ever is wrong with them, and then is fixed… they know it happened. No doubt about that.
“I am a distance healer.. no one ‘KNOWS’ how it works… but when they call me on the phone, tell me what ever is wrong with them, and then is fixed… they know it happened. No doubt about that.”
You understand why people would call this quackery, right?
Do you really think I CARE what people like YOU think… or any of the other fools? You’ll find out soon enough…. and NO ONE will care.
You’re free to not care. But I’m also free to be nonplussed by “quantum spirituality” or whatever. And others are free to not take you seriously.
I didn’t ask you to take me seriously. Why would ‘others’ believe what you do, are you cloned, or a ‘pack’? The point of the whole statement was this: If you believe the truth is a lie, why would you believe in something so out of this world wonderful, something that one of GODS simple {for HIM} gifts, would be believed by anyone that is not capable of believing in something bigger than what he/she can comprehend. No wonder God loves me so much….. I believe in everything that is impossible, is possible with HIM;;;;;;;;;;…. pathetic.
Spirit Woman,
I am broad minded enough to know that some people may have a genetic ability to sense certain things. Your in your 60’s? I value older wisdom.
When my partner gets strong feelings, and we act on it, make a bee line to the casino and put the money on the roulette wheel number that burns in her mind, first time and walk away with a pile of chips, I know there is something to it.
Take care.
What I value are people, like you, that can understand there are powerful frequencies that are used constantly. Some people put them to good use, and some, the majority, for bad. I just know what gifts are given to me, by the ONE who made and owns these energies… where does earth get them? From the band around the atmosphere called the Ionosphere… there is much wisdom to seek, and if we seek, we find… thank you for your comment to me, Buddy. I wish you well… even at the casino…:)
My grandson posts at times and I didn’t change his name to mine… but you know who I am.
I am bookmarking your page for future research.good luck with the good work.
Doiy… if this is meant for me…. just this morning… I called Charter for some help with my account… the young man and I were talking about the situation of earth.. he said he had enough problems with his life that he didn’t pay much attention to the big problems… I told him I was a distance healer, and asked him if I could help him with any health problems… he said he had a niece that had sickle cell anemia.. I told him I would help and she would be ‘whole’ in about 15 minutes.. that is the kind of people I want to help.. no mocking, no scorning, no doubt.. I have a post it note, many for that fact…but this one applies to the gift I have:
“Never must the physician say, the disease is incurable. By that admission he denies God, our Creator; he doubts Nature with her profuseness of hidden powers and mysteries.”
Earth is hell, and no one who hates God and loves lucifer/satan wants to go to heaven.. but the ones who do want to go to that wonderful place where we came from, embraces the gift from God that I have. I am NOT the healer, GOD is, but HE, in His infinite love for me, allows me to take the DNA and initiate that healing that HE alone can do. God is going to make all this good, our hope lies in HIM, and never doubt that HE alone is what matters. Not only in heaven, but also on this poor ravaged planet we call earth, and HE calls hell. Anytime you want to contact me, please don’t hesitate.. the time on earth is counting down to the seconds…..
For the History Buffs:
http://rationalrevolution.net/war/fdr_provoked_the_japanese_attack.htm
So Japanese “Propaganda” at the time was correct.
At least FDR went to war with a declaration instead of this endless warfare nonsense of today…
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